1 00:00:50,572 --> 00:00:52,791 Jean: What is it you wanted to talk about, Michael? 2 00:01:03,063 --> 00:01:04,107 Baseball. 3 00:01:07,502 --> 00:01:08,503 Jean: Baseball? 4 00:01:14,117 --> 00:01:15,597 Don't worry about the time. 5 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,864 Why are we really sitting here, Michael? 6 00:03:09,363 --> 00:03:10,755 That's all I got to say. 7 00:03:25,117 --> 00:03:26,467 Jean, we're friends, right? 8 00:03:27,990 --> 00:03:29,034 Hmm. 9 00:03:30,906 --> 00:03:32,386 Please don't say anything to Sophie. 10 00:03:36,346 --> 00:03:37,391 Just let her see it. 11 00:03:40,785 --> 00:03:41,786 Of course. 12 00:04:16,865 --> 00:04:18,954 Man: Yeah! 13 00:04:20,782 --> 00:04:22,697 Come on. 14 00:04:22,784 --> 00:04:23,872 I got you. 15 00:04:25,569 --> 00:04:27,615 Oh, are you cold? Did you have fun? 16 00:04:27,702 --> 00:04:29,573 Girl: Can I take my floaties off? 17 00:04:29,660 --> 00:04:31,575 Woman: Yes, we can take your floaties off. 18 00:04:47,504 --> 00:04:49,027 Okay! 19 00:04:49,114 --> 00:04:50,855 So, guys, Happy and Healthy 20 00:04:50,942 --> 00:04:53,249 coming to you live from Durham, North Carolina. 21 00:04:53,336 --> 00:04:54,468 As you can see... 22 00:04:57,035 --> 00:04:59,124 I'm not on the Cabo diet today. 23 00:04:59,211 --> 00:05:01,170 Beef sliders are not part of the regimen, 24 00:05:01,257 --> 00:05:04,129 but I'm back home with my brother 25 00:05:04,216 --> 00:05:06,436 on a very important family trip. 26 00:05:08,308 --> 00:05:10,179 - No. - Clay. 27 00:05:10,266 --> 00:05:13,400 - Clay-Man, say hi. - Get the fuck outta here. 28 00:05:13,487 --> 00:05:17,229 Well, he has always been the shyer brother. 29 00:05:17,317 --> 00:05:19,710 Anyways, thank you guys so much for checking in, 30 00:05:19,797 --> 00:05:22,452 and I hope to be back soon with some good news. 31 00:05:26,543 --> 00:05:28,850 How many people watch that? 32 00:05:28,937 --> 00:05:32,375 Well, it's like a little over 100 every post. 33 00:05:32,462 --> 00:05:34,551 But it's all about consistency and quantity. 34 00:05:34,638 --> 00:05:35,987 I mean, that's how you build the following. 35 00:05:37,859 --> 00:05:39,382 Do you think people are there because of Dad? 36 00:05:40,644 --> 00:05:42,385 Yeah, I mean, absolutely. 37 00:05:42,472 --> 00:05:44,213 There's people that are fans of the, the doc, 38 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:45,606 true crime fans. 39 00:05:47,129 --> 00:05:48,522 I mean, even people that don't like Dad 40 00:05:48,609 --> 00:05:49,697 are happy to see me doing well. 41 00:05:53,178 --> 00:05:54,354 Well, you're doing great, man. 42 00:05:57,095 --> 00:05:59,533 Thanks, Clay. 43 00:05:59,620 --> 00:06:02,013 Margaret Ratliff: Are you reading Dad's book? 44 00:06:02,100 --> 00:06:03,624 Martha Ratliff: Yeah. 45 00:06:03,711 --> 00:06:06,583 My therapist recommended reading it years ago, 46 00:06:06,670 --> 00:06:07,889 but I just started. 47 00:06:09,586 --> 00:06:11,806 There's a lot to dissect in there, Margie. 48 00:06:11,893 --> 00:06:13,111 I'm sure. 49 00:06:21,206 --> 00:06:22,643 You have a match. 50 00:06:24,775 --> 00:06:25,776 You want to see? 51 00:06:29,127 --> 00:06:30,433 Can you check it? 52 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:31,521 Yeah. 53 00:06:44,404 --> 00:06:45,796 She's cute. 54 00:06:47,407 --> 00:06:48,451 Oh yeah? 55 00:06:49,931 --> 00:06:50,932 Let me see. 56 00:07:00,637 --> 00:07:01,638 Hm... 57 00:07:05,425 --> 00:07:06,817 Why are you smiling? 58 00:07:09,907 --> 00:07:11,343 I don't know, you just, you... 59 00:07:12,519 --> 00:07:14,172 you never said anything to me. 60 00:07:16,697 --> 00:07:19,047 You never asked. 61 00:07:19,134 --> 00:07:21,179 Like, no one ever asked me. 62 00:07:21,266 --> 00:07:22,398 I would have told you. 63 00:07:24,879 --> 00:07:27,621 I just, I, I just... 64 00:07:27,708 --> 00:07:30,058 figured you didn't want to talk about it. 65 00:07:30,145 --> 00:07:32,147 That's the whole fucked-up thing about our family, Margie. 66 00:07:32,234 --> 00:07:34,105 Like, nobody, 67 00:07:34,192 --> 00:07:37,935 nobody ever really just talks about anything, ever. 68 00:07:38,022 --> 00:07:40,024 Like, we haven't talked about 69 00:07:40,111 --> 00:07:42,113 my trip, about Germany. 70 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,028 Yeah, we did. You said it was enlightening. 71 00:07:44,115 --> 00:07:46,553 Okay. Yeah, but, like, don't you want to know why? 72 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,511 Jesus, Martha. Why does everything have 73 00:07:48,598 --> 00:07:49,947 to be so serious? 74 00:07:50,034 --> 00:07:51,862 It's my birthday tomorrow. 75 00:07:51,949 --> 00:07:54,212 Can we just eat a bunch of candy and act like 15-year-olds 76 00:07:54,299 --> 00:07:56,998 who've never had a hotel room to themselves? Please. 77 00:08:07,051 --> 00:08:11,491 I know, I know. I just... I want to celebrate this moment. 78 00:08:11,578 --> 00:08:13,014 Celebrate how? 79 00:08:30,814 --> 00:08:31,815 Fuck. 80 00:09:27,392 --> 00:09:28,959 - Hello. - Kathleen Peterson: Hey, Candy. 81 00:09:29,046 --> 00:09:30,395 Oh, hey. 82 00:09:33,094 --> 00:09:35,444 I know we haven't spoken since Thanksgiving. 83 00:09:35,531 --> 00:09:39,448 It's, it's all been really... crazy. 84 00:09:39,535 --> 00:09:41,624 Yeah. Same here. 85 00:09:42,843 --> 00:09:44,845 Kathleen: Right. Um... 86 00:09:46,934 --> 00:09:49,110 Anyway, I, I wanted to say... 87 00:09:52,069 --> 00:09:54,637 thank you for hosting us. 88 00:09:54,724 --> 00:09:57,031 Candace Zamperini: Of course, was happy to spend some time with Mike. 89 00:09:57,118 --> 00:09:58,772 I hope everyone got enough to eat. 90 00:10:00,774 --> 00:10:04,038 How's work? Is it any easier this week? 91 00:10:04,125 --> 00:10:05,822 Well, no, they're sending me 92 00:10:05,909 --> 00:10:08,520 on this last-minute trip to Toronto. 93 00:10:08,608 --> 00:10:10,784 - Everything okay there? - Candace: It's fine. 94 00:10:10,871 --> 00:10:12,220 You know, full steam ahead for Christmas. 95 00:10:12,307 --> 00:10:15,049 I'm at the doctor now. Just... 96 00:10:15,136 --> 00:10:16,485 - Kathleen: You okay? - Yeah, fine. 97 00:10:16,572 --> 00:10:19,314 Just, you know, routine. 98 00:10:19,401 --> 00:10:20,794 Can never be too careful. 99 00:10:22,491 --> 00:10:24,145 Are you doing okay? 100 00:10:24,232 --> 00:10:25,233 I was really worried after you left. 101 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,409 Hey... 102 00:10:27,496 --> 00:10:29,411 what if I ditched the Toronto trip 103 00:10:29,498 --> 00:10:31,065 and you leave Ash with Mark 104 00:10:31,152 --> 00:10:32,980 and we get a flight to Turks and Caicos? 105 00:10:33,067 --> 00:10:34,546 What are you talking about? 106 00:10:34,634 --> 00:10:36,374 Yeah. Or Aruba. 107 00:10:36,461 --> 00:10:38,986 I mean, we deserve it, right? 108 00:10:39,073 --> 00:10:40,640 Are you joking? 109 00:10:46,123 --> 00:10:47,821 Of course. 110 00:10:47,908 --> 00:10:49,561 Candace: Yeah. That's funny. 111 00:10:52,739 --> 00:10:54,305 Yeah. 112 00:10:54,392 --> 00:10:57,178 Alright. Well, I got to get back to it. 113 00:10:57,265 --> 00:10:58,788 Candace: Okay. 114 00:10:58,875 --> 00:11:00,094 Kathleen: Love to Mark and Ash. 115 00:11:00,181 --> 00:11:01,443 Yeah. Thanks for calling. 116 00:11:04,098 --> 00:11:05,142 Bye. 117 00:12:20,827 --> 00:12:22,872 Kathleen? 118 00:12:22,959 --> 00:12:25,919 ♪ Tonight I really need 119 00:12:26,006 --> 00:12:29,487 ♪ To know 120 00:12:29,574 --> 00:12:31,533 ♪ Tell it to my heart 121 00:12:31,620 --> 00:12:33,665 ♪ Tell me I'm the only one ♪ 122 00:12:33,753 --> 00:12:35,232 ♪ Is this really love... 123 00:12:35,319 --> 00:12:36,451 Kathleen. 124 00:12:37,669 --> 00:12:39,410 ♪ Tell it to my heart 125 00:12:39,497 --> 00:12:42,326 ♪ I can feel my body rock 126 00:12:42,413 --> 00:12:45,939 ♪ Every time you call my name ♪ 127 00:12:47,331 --> 00:12:51,335 ♪ The passion's so complete 128 00:12:51,422 --> 00:12:53,816 ♪ It's never ending 129 00:12:55,470 --> 00:12:57,211 ♪ As long as I... 130 00:12:57,298 --> 00:12:58,908 Oh my god! 131 00:12:58,995 --> 00:13:00,301 You're home early. 132 00:13:01,258 --> 00:13:02,477 Jesus. 133 00:13:02,564 --> 00:13:03,783 Here, zip me up. 134 00:13:05,045 --> 00:13:07,308 ♪ Soul to soul 135 00:13:07,395 --> 00:13:10,050 ♪ Always feel you near 136 00:13:11,703 --> 00:13:13,705 ♪ So say the words 137 00:13:13,793 --> 00:13:18,188 ♪ I long to hear 138 00:13:18,275 --> 00:13:20,277 ♪ Tell it to my heart 139 00:13:20,364 --> 00:13:22,323 ♪ Tell me I'm the only one 140 00:13:22,410 --> 00:13:26,457 ♪ Is this really love or just a game? ♪ 141 00:13:26,544 --> 00:13:30,766 ♪ Tell it to my heart I can feel my body rock ♪ 142 00:13:30,853 --> 00:13:34,639 ♪ Every time you call my name ♪ 143 00:13:51,787 --> 00:13:54,659 ♪ Love, love on the run 144 00:13:54,746 --> 00:13:57,010 ♪ Breaking us down 145 00:13:57,097 --> 00:14:00,361 ♪ Though we keep holding on ♪ 146 00:14:20,816 --> 00:14:22,078 Kathleen: Thank you. 147 00:14:32,959 --> 00:14:34,917 Thank you very much. 148 00:14:35,004 --> 00:14:37,441 - Hey! - Good to see you! 149 00:14:37,528 --> 00:14:39,182 Both: Ohh. 150 00:14:39,269 --> 00:14:40,880 - You're glowing. - Oh yeah? 151 00:14:40,967 --> 00:14:41,881 You ever know, maybe I'm pregnant again. 152 00:14:41,968 --> 00:14:43,883 - Oh god. - No, no. 153 00:14:43,970 --> 00:14:45,536 You think the beef will be like shoe leather again this year? 154 00:14:45,623 --> 00:14:47,103 Michael Peterson: Like shoe leather? 155 00:14:47,190 --> 00:14:48,844 I'm pretty sure it was shoe leather. 156 00:14:48,931 --> 00:14:50,411 We'll be too drunk at that point for it to matter. 157 00:14:50,498 --> 00:14:51,978 Kathleen: Cheers. 158 00:14:52,065 --> 00:14:53,153 Merry Christmas. 159 00:15:22,095 --> 00:15:25,011 Ah. 160 00:15:44,552 --> 00:15:45,814 Oh. 161 00:16:11,274 --> 00:16:12,884 I love your makeup. 162 00:16:12,972 --> 00:16:14,016 Thank you. 163 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:18,847 Enjoy your Prince Charming. 164 00:16:18,934 --> 00:16:21,023 Oh. Yeah. 165 00:16:21,110 --> 00:16:23,243 - Merry Christmas. - Happy happy. 166 00:16:29,118 --> 00:16:33,340 ♪ Stars shining bright above you ♪ 167 00:16:34,036 --> 00:16:35,211 Excuse me. 168 00:16:35,298 --> 00:16:36,560 ♪ Night breezes seem 169 00:16:36,647 --> 00:16:40,303 ♪ To whisper I love you 170 00:16:40,390 --> 00:16:45,221 ♪ Birds singin' in the sycamore trees ♪ 171 00:16:45,308 --> 00:16:49,617 ♪ Dream a little dream of me ♪ 172 00:16:51,662 --> 00:16:57,233 ♪ Say nighty-night and kiss me ♪ 173 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:02,804 ♪ Just hold me tight and tell me you'll miss me ♪ 174 00:17:02,891 --> 00:17:07,504 ♪ While I'm alone and blue as can be ♪ 175 00:17:07,591 --> 00:17:11,421 ♪ Dream a little dream of me ♪ 176 00:17:11,508 --> 00:17:14,729 ♪ Finally it has happened to me ♪ 177 00:17:14,816 --> 00:17:16,731 ♪ Right in front of my face ♪ 178 00:17:16,818 --> 00:17:19,560 ♪ And I just cannot hide it ♪ 179 00:17:19,647 --> 00:17:23,172 ♪ Meeting Mr. Right, the man of my dreams ♪ 180 00:17:23,259 --> 00:17:27,437 ♪ I'll be home 181 00:17:27,524 --> 00:17:33,748 ♪ For Christmas 182 00:17:59,556 --> 00:18:01,341 Corrections officer: Time to go, Peterson. 183 00:18:01,428 --> 00:18:03,647 We're transferring you to County for the hearing. 184 00:18:03,734 --> 00:18:06,781 Do I take everything now or do I come back? 185 00:18:06,868 --> 00:18:08,304 How lucky do you feel? 186 00:19:20,289 --> 00:19:21,986 That's the girlfriend. 187 00:19:22,073 --> 00:19:23,640 Poor, stupid woman. 188 00:19:45,227 --> 00:19:46,272 Court clerk: All rise. 189 00:19:48,752 --> 00:19:50,276 Oyez! Oyez! Oyez! 190 00:19:50,363 --> 00:19:52,321 This honorable court for the County of Durham 191 00:19:52,408 --> 00:19:54,715 is now open and sitting for the dispatch of its business. 192 00:19:54,802 --> 00:19:57,108 The Honorable Judge Orlando Hudson presiding. 193 00:19:57,196 --> 00:19:59,546 God save the state and this honorable court. 194 00:19:59,633 --> 00:20:00,634 Please be seated. 195 00:20:12,863 --> 00:20:14,213 Wonder where everyone is. 196 00:20:16,476 --> 00:20:18,826 Candace: I guess they finally came to their senses. 197 00:20:26,747 --> 00:20:27,835 You feeling okay? 198 00:20:28,575 --> 00:20:29,663 Oh, sure. 199 00:20:31,012 --> 00:20:32,231 No more second thoughts? 200 00:20:32,318 --> 00:20:33,493 I'm here, aren't I? 201 00:20:34,276 --> 00:20:35,277 Jesus. 202 00:20:37,584 --> 00:20:40,108 Alright. Before we proceed, 203 00:20:40,195 --> 00:20:41,936 does the district attorney want to call up anyone 204 00:20:42,023 --> 00:20:43,111 to make a statement? 205 00:20:43,894 --> 00:20:45,418 Yes, Your Honor. 206 00:20:45,505 --> 00:20:47,115 Kathleen's family would like to be heard. 207 00:20:47,202 --> 00:20:49,030 I'd like to call Candace Zamperini. 208 00:20:56,255 --> 00:20:57,778 - Good morning. - Judge Hudson: Good morning. 209 00:20:59,475 --> 00:21:02,652 I'm Candace Zamperini, one of Kathleen's sisters. 210 00:21:04,263 --> 00:21:05,873 Not long after my sister's death, 211 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,614 I went for the first time 212 00:21:07,701 --> 00:21:09,920 to meet with District Attorney Jim Hardin. 213 00:21:10,007 --> 00:21:12,923 Inevitably, I didn't want to believe. 214 00:21:13,010 --> 00:21:15,274 Obviously, I didn't want to believe 215 00:21:15,361 --> 00:21:17,406 that my sister had been murdered. 216 00:21:17,493 --> 00:21:20,453 I was sure this was an accident. 217 00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:22,324 At that meeting, Jim Hardin asked 218 00:21:22,411 --> 00:21:24,413 if I wanted to see the autopsy pictures 219 00:21:24,500 --> 00:21:25,849 and some crime scene photos. 220 00:21:28,722 --> 00:21:31,855 It was my Pandora's box. 221 00:21:34,597 --> 00:21:37,557 All the evils of my sister's death 222 00:21:37,644 --> 00:21:39,428 leaped into my eyes. 223 00:21:39,515 --> 00:21:42,649 The horrors of my sister's beating were shown. 224 00:21:42,736 --> 00:21:44,215 And because of you, 225 00:21:44,303 --> 00:21:46,130 my sister has been gone 226 00:21:46,217 --> 00:21:50,526 from this world for ten years. 227 00:21:50,613 --> 00:21:54,182 Ten years ago today, she was murdered. 228 00:21:54,269 --> 00:21:59,013 Her 35 cuts, bruises, wounds, contusions. 229 00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:01,842 Yes, she was strangled. 230 00:22:01,929 --> 00:22:04,323 And the seven death blows to the back of her head, 231 00:22:04,410 --> 00:22:08,065 causing her to bleed slowly to death. 232 00:22:08,152 --> 00:22:12,200 My sister has lied in her grave for 16 years. 233 00:22:12,287 --> 00:22:14,681 Ten years 234 00:22:14,768 --> 00:22:17,684 Lori and I have been without our sister 235 00:22:17,771 --> 00:22:20,904 and ten years her daughter hasn't had her. 236 00:22:22,515 --> 00:22:23,820 You took the life 237 00:22:25,213 --> 00:22:27,302 of the one that provided for you... 238 00:22:30,218 --> 00:22:31,959 and guided your children. 239 00:22:32,916 --> 00:22:34,918 She loved you guys. 240 00:22:37,094 --> 00:22:38,139 She loved you. 241 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,884 Kathleen was the best thing you ever had. 242 00:22:45,668 --> 00:22:48,454 Michael Peterson was correctly charged, 243 00:22:48,541 --> 00:22:51,021 and he is pleading guilty today. 244 00:22:51,108 --> 00:22:54,111 The words "Alford plea," they're meaningless. 245 00:22:54,198 --> 00:22:59,247 Alford schmal-ford. Means nothing. Guilt. 246 00:22:59,334 --> 00:23:01,075 An innocent man doesn't plead guilty. 247 00:23:01,162 --> 00:23:03,120 A guilty one does. 248 00:23:03,207 --> 00:23:06,602 And that's why I'm asking you, Judge Hudson, today 249 00:23:06,689 --> 00:23:11,390 to immediately dismiss this retrial hearing. 250 00:23:12,173 --> 00:23:13,566 Please. 251 00:23:13,653 --> 00:23:14,654 Please. 252 00:23:19,746 --> 00:23:22,270 Do not give this killer a chance at freedom. 253 00:23:24,707 --> 00:23:25,708 Thank you, Your Honor. 254 00:23:38,112 --> 00:23:41,376 Your words are very moving, Mrs. Zamperini. 255 00:23:41,463 --> 00:23:44,031 Your sister's memory is not lost on this court. 256 00:23:50,820 --> 00:23:52,256 Come on. Come on. 257 00:23:57,958 --> 00:23:59,481 The court, in its discretion, 258 00:23:59,568 --> 00:24:02,528 will deny the motion to dismiss the hearing. 259 00:24:05,835 --> 00:24:08,882 The court is ready to proceed with the hearing for a retrial. 260 00:24:17,804 --> 00:24:19,458 Your Honor, I would like to call 261 00:24:19,545 --> 00:24:21,721 Evelyn Ivins to the stand. 262 00:24:21,808 --> 00:24:24,245 Evelyn Ivins: I was specifically focused on Greg Taylor, 263 00:24:24,332 --> 00:24:26,334 who was wrongfully convicted, 264 00:24:26,421 --> 00:24:28,554 which led me to Duane Deaver 265 00:24:28,641 --> 00:24:32,122 and the inner workings of the North Carolina SBI. 266 00:24:32,209 --> 00:24:33,776 What did you learn? 267 00:24:33,863 --> 00:24:36,518 For years, the SBI has been engaging 268 00:24:36,605 --> 00:24:39,216 in unconstitutional behavior, 269 00:24:39,303 --> 00:24:42,263 hiding exculpatory evidence from the defense 270 00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:45,527 in order to ensure convictions for the state. 271 00:24:45,614 --> 00:24:47,660 David Rudolf: Thank you, Ms. Ivins. 272 00:24:47,747 --> 00:24:49,923 Jim Hardin: And why should we trust you? 273 00:24:50,010 --> 00:24:54,057 Well, sir, I've written over 200 bloodstain reports 274 00:24:54,144 --> 00:24:59,193 and overseen 500 scenes. 275 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:00,629 Jim: No further questions, Your Honor. 276 00:25:02,892 --> 00:25:04,720 David: Have you had a chance to review 277 00:25:04,807 --> 00:25:06,983 all documents provided by the State 278 00:25:07,070 --> 00:25:09,856 related to Agent Duane Deaver's 279 00:25:09,943 --> 00:25:11,510 20-year career? 280 00:25:12,293 --> 00:25:13,686 I did. 281 00:25:13,773 --> 00:25:15,862 Well over 100,000 pages. 282 00:25:15,949 --> 00:25:19,126 And you reviewed all of that? 283 00:25:19,213 --> 00:25:20,649 Ron Guerette: Unfortunately. 284 00:25:20,736 --> 00:25:23,043 Yeah. Alright. Alright. 285 00:25:23,130 --> 00:25:24,914 How many cases were there in total 286 00:25:25,001 --> 00:25:28,875 in which Agent Deaver just observed bloodstains, 287 00:25:28,962 --> 00:25:32,356 either at the scene, at the SBI laboratory, 288 00:25:32,443 --> 00:25:35,185 or by looking at photos? 289 00:25:35,272 --> 00:25:37,100 Only 54. 290 00:25:37,187 --> 00:25:40,016 In how many of those cases did Agent Deaver provide 291 00:25:40,103 --> 00:25:43,106 a bloodstain pattern analysis opinion? 292 00:25:43,193 --> 00:25:45,413 Thirty-six. Not 200. 293 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,894 David: Not 200. 294 00:25:47,981 --> 00:25:50,244 How many cases were there in which Agent Deaver 295 00:25:50,331 --> 00:25:53,334 actually performed tests 296 00:25:53,421 --> 00:25:55,075 or experiments 297 00:25:55,162 --> 00:25:56,990 before the Peterson case? 298 00:25:57,077 --> 00:26:00,689 Three. Only three. 299 00:26:00,776 --> 00:26:03,213 Mr. Guerette, if someone claims that they've worked 300 00:26:03,300 --> 00:26:07,304 on hundreds of cases over a 20-year career 301 00:26:07,391 --> 00:26:10,438 but actually only worked 302 00:26:10,525 --> 00:26:12,832 on less than five, what would you call that? 303 00:26:12,919 --> 00:26:14,529 - Lying. - Lawyer: Objection, Your Honor. 304 00:26:14,616 --> 00:26:16,313 - That is a lie. - Judge Hudson: Sustained. 305 00:26:17,924 --> 00:26:19,142 David: No more questions, Your Honor. 306 00:26:20,579 --> 00:26:23,625 As Mrs. Zamperini mentioned earlier, 307 00:26:23,712 --> 00:26:26,759 today marks the ten-year anniversary 308 00:26:26,846 --> 00:26:28,108 of Kathleen's death. 309 00:26:29,196 --> 00:26:30,589 Ten years ago, 310 00:26:32,025 --> 00:26:34,549 Michael and Kathleen Peterson 311 00:26:34,636 --> 00:26:36,812 enjoyed a night in with a movie 312 00:26:36,899 --> 00:26:39,598 from Blockbusters, "America's Sweethearts." 313 00:26:40,990 --> 00:26:44,211 After she finished with a work call, 314 00:26:44,298 --> 00:26:46,735 they decided to go out by the pool 315 00:26:46,822 --> 00:26:48,215 with a bottle of wine. 316 00:26:49,346 --> 00:26:52,045 They talked about the kids 317 00:26:52,132 --> 00:26:53,960 and Christmas. 318 00:26:54,047 --> 00:26:56,223 They were looking towards the future. 319 00:26:57,267 --> 00:27:00,270 Then she said good night. 320 00:27:00,357 --> 00:27:02,272 Michael stayed out by the pool. 321 00:27:06,712 --> 00:27:08,539 And when he came back in later, 322 00:27:08,627 --> 00:27:10,063 he found his wife... 323 00:27:12,239 --> 00:27:14,371 the love of his life, barely breathing 324 00:27:14,458 --> 00:27:17,636 at the bottom of the steps from a fall. 325 00:27:19,159 --> 00:27:22,553 A tragic accident. 326 00:27:22,641 --> 00:27:26,079 But in large part because of Duane Deaver, 327 00:27:26,166 --> 00:27:29,691 the DA convinced the jury that this was murder. 328 00:27:29,778 --> 00:27:33,260 What we know now is that Deaver had a habit 329 00:27:33,347 --> 00:27:36,263 of preparing misleading reports 330 00:27:36,350 --> 00:27:38,918 and presenting misleading testimony 331 00:27:39,005 --> 00:27:40,963 under oath. 332 00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:44,401 We never asked for a perfect trial. 333 00:27:45,228 --> 00:27:46,360 Uh... 334 00:27:50,364 --> 00:27:52,714 but we at least deserved a fair one. 335 00:27:52,801 --> 00:27:55,325 I'm therefore going to ask the court at this time 336 00:27:55,412 --> 00:27:58,328 to grant Michael Peterson a new trial 337 00:27:58,415 --> 00:28:01,331 at which the evidence can be presented 338 00:28:01,418 --> 00:28:03,769 in a fair and unbiased way. 339 00:28:03,856 --> 00:28:05,161 Then... 340 00:28:06,772 --> 00:28:08,904 let a jury of 12, uh... 341 00:28:10,558 --> 00:28:11,690 sort it out. 342 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:14,431 Thank you, Your Honor. 343 00:28:22,439 --> 00:28:24,441 Alright. 344 00:28:24,528 --> 00:28:26,617 Would the defendant please rise? 345 00:28:29,751 --> 00:28:31,797 Do you understand, sir, that you do have the right 346 00:28:31,884 --> 00:28:34,887 to plead not guilty and have a jury trial? 347 00:28:36,453 --> 00:28:38,455 - Yes. - Judge Hudson: Mr. Peterson, 348 00:28:38,542 --> 00:28:40,022 you're pleading guilty pursuant 349 00:28:40,109 --> 00:28:42,285 to North Carolina versus Alford case 350 00:28:42,372 --> 00:28:43,765 of voluntary manslaughter. 351 00:28:43,852 --> 00:28:45,811 - Do you understand, sir? - Yes. 352 00:28:45,898 --> 00:28:47,421 Judge Hudson: Has Mr. Peterson proven 353 00:28:47,508 --> 00:28:49,815 that Duane Deaver misled this court? 354 00:28:49,902 --> 00:28:54,036 The answer to that question is yes. 355 00:28:54,123 --> 00:28:57,257 Has Mr. Peterson proven that Duane Deaver misled 356 00:28:57,344 --> 00:29:00,390 the jury on the validity of his argument? 357 00:29:00,477 --> 00:29:02,523 The answer to that question is... 358 00:29:03,132 --> 00:29:05,091 yes. 359 00:29:05,178 --> 00:29:07,789 Was Deaver's misleading testimony 360 00:29:07,876 --> 00:29:09,748 critical and material 361 00:29:09,835 --> 00:29:12,925 to the conviction of Mr. Peterson? 362 00:29:13,012 --> 00:29:14,883 The answer to that question is... 363 00:29:15,579 --> 00:29:16,624 yes. 364 00:29:20,367 --> 00:29:22,151 Alright. 365 00:29:22,238 --> 00:29:24,719 Do you understand that when you enter a plea of Alford, 366 00:29:24,806 --> 00:29:26,677 the court will treat you as though you're guilty 367 00:29:26,765 --> 00:29:28,897 for the purpose of sentencing? 368 00:29:28,984 --> 00:29:30,420 Yes, sir. 369 00:29:30,507 --> 00:29:32,074 Judge Hudson: So, Mr. Peterson, 370 00:29:32,161 --> 00:29:34,468 to the charge of voluntary manslaughter 371 00:29:34,555 --> 00:29:35,991 in the death of Kathleen Peterson, 372 00:29:36,078 --> 00:29:37,384 how do you plead? 373 00:29:53,356 --> 00:29:54,401 Guilty. 374 00:29:55,663 --> 00:29:58,448 I plead guilty. 375 00:29:58,535 --> 00:30:00,189 Judge Hudson: The court finds that the defendant 376 00:30:00,276 --> 00:30:01,756 will receive a new trial 377 00:30:01,843 --> 00:30:03,410 at a time that the State deems fit. 378 00:30:07,022 --> 00:30:08,589 The court will begin the process 379 00:30:08,676 --> 00:30:11,635 of releasing Mr. Peterson immediately. 380 00:30:11,722 --> 00:30:13,637 The court finds that Mr. Peterson 381 00:30:13,724 --> 00:30:16,075 has fulfilled his obligation pursuant to the Alford plea 382 00:30:16,162 --> 00:30:18,729 and has no further obligations to the State of North Carolina. 383 00:30:18,817 --> 00:30:20,819 You're free to go. 384 00:30:20,906 --> 00:30:22,081 Judge Hudson: Court dismissed. 385 00:30:28,478 --> 00:30:29,697 Congratulations. 386 00:30:31,003 --> 00:30:32,091 Alright, let's, uh... 387 00:30:49,586 --> 00:30:51,850 Bailiff: You have a 10 p.m. curfew 388 00:30:51,937 --> 00:30:53,982 that will be strictly monitored. 389 00:30:55,244 --> 00:30:56,245 Be right back. 390 00:31:20,182 --> 00:31:21,967 Do you want to shower and get some rest? 391 00:31:22,054 --> 00:31:25,927 No. No, no, absolutely not. 392 00:31:26,014 --> 00:31:29,017 No, no, I'm okay. Thank you. 393 00:31:33,239 --> 00:31:36,677 So, you old man, where do you want to go celebrate? 394 00:31:38,505 --> 00:31:40,420 Clay, let's go to Amalfi. 395 00:31:40,507 --> 00:31:44,076 I feel I could eat an enormous, obscene bowl 396 00:31:44,163 --> 00:31:45,729 of spaghetti and meatballs. 397 00:31:45,816 --> 00:31:48,471 - Can you get on that? - Clayton: On it. 398 00:31:48,558 --> 00:31:50,256 Jessica: Amalfi. This is Jessica. How may I help you? 399 00:31:50,343 --> 00:31:51,822 Yeah, I need to make a reservation 400 00:31:51,910 --> 00:31:53,824 for a large group, 12 for tonight. 401 00:31:53,912 --> 00:31:55,783 Jessica: Certainly. What's the name? 402 00:31:55,870 --> 00:31:57,872 Uh, it's for Michael Peterson. 403 00:31:57,959 --> 00:31:59,221 Jessica: Michael Peterson, Michael Peterson? 404 00:32:00,527 --> 00:32:03,182 - Yes. - Jessica: Oh. Okay. 405 00:32:03,269 --> 00:32:04,792 Just a moment. Please hold. 406 00:32:07,838 --> 00:32:10,232 Man: Hello. Are you calling about Michael Peterson? 407 00:32:10,319 --> 00:32:13,148 Yep. We used to go there all the time. 408 00:32:13,235 --> 00:32:15,672 Yes. Well, the thing is we don't seat convicted killers. 409 00:32:16,499 --> 00:32:17,805 Thank you. 410 00:32:28,816 --> 00:32:31,906 Reporter: In 2011, Michael Peterson was granted a retrial 411 00:32:31,993 --> 00:32:34,387 and released from prison based on a technicality. 412 00:32:34,474 --> 00:32:36,693 - Michael: We good? - Amalfi can't take us. 413 00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:37,912 We're too big of a party. 414 00:32:40,088 --> 00:32:42,351 How does everyone feel about Baja Palace? 415 00:32:42,438 --> 00:32:44,266 Reporter: Peterson remained out of prison 416 00:32:44,353 --> 00:32:46,486 for the last six years awaiting the retrial. 417 00:32:46,573 --> 00:32:48,314 But the negotiations between the State 418 00:32:48,401 --> 00:32:50,577 and the defense ended in a stalemate, 419 00:32:50,664 --> 00:32:52,709 with both sides conceding that a retrial could be difficult. 420 00:32:52,796 --> 00:32:56,061 Today, Michael Peterson entered an Alford plea, 421 00:32:56,148 --> 00:32:58,367 thus ending the 16-year saga 422 00:32:58,454 --> 00:33:01,675 of the State versus Michael Iver Peterson. 423 00:33:01,762 --> 00:33:03,503 Tune in later tonight for my sit-down interview 424 00:33:03,590 --> 00:33:05,679 with Michael Peterson himself. 425 00:33:05,766 --> 00:33:07,376 Man: You want me to keep going? 426 00:33:07,463 --> 00:33:11,076 Uh... sorry. Give me a minute. 427 00:33:11,163 --> 00:33:12,947 Man: Yeah, of course. I get it. 428 00:33:19,562 --> 00:33:21,347 Hi, everybody. 429 00:33:21,434 --> 00:33:24,654 - Whoa! - Woman: Whoo! Come on, Nate! 430 00:33:24,741 --> 00:33:26,787 Whoo! You got this! 431 00:33:48,069 --> 00:33:51,159 Don't be afraid to possess the space that you need 432 00:33:51,246 --> 00:33:53,335 to express these feelings. 433 00:33:53,422 --> 00:33:56,034 You're safe here. This is a safe space. 434 00:34:15,227 --> 00:34:17,751 - Man: You okay? - Yeah. 435 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,407 - Let's get back to it. - Alright. 436 00:34:21,494 --> 00:34:22,930 Interviewer: What was the worst part? 437 00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:25,933 Do we have to show my face? 438 00:34:26,020 --> 00:34:27,500 Interviewer: Of course not. No. 439 00:34:27,587 --> 00:34:28,936 Whatever makes you comfortable. 440 00:34:29,023 --> 00:34:30,633 Tilt down, please. 441 00:34:32,809 --> 00:34:35,290 Hey, guys. Todd here. 442 00:34:35,377 --> 00:34:38,337 You know, every day I wake up just so grateful. 443 00:34:38,424 --> 00:34:40,034 Grateful to be alive and to be healthy 444 00:34:40,121 --> 00:34:43,037 and to be talking to you guys. 445 00:34:43,124 --> 00:34:45,387 I know last week I was a bit confused 446 00:34:45,474 --> 00:34:48,216 in anticipation of today. 447 00:34:48,303 --> 00:34:50,044 A lot of you guys reached out to me 448 00:34:50,131 --> 00:34:51,698 to check in to see if I was okay, 449 00:34:51,785 --> 00:34:54,744 and that meant the world to me. 450 00:34:58,270 --> 00:34:59,662 Lori Campbell: I don't know, Candy. I just... 451 00:35:02,056 --> 00:35:03,536 I feel nothing now. 452 00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:05,190 Well, then something maybe is wrong with me 453 00:35:05,277 --> 00:35:06,843 because I still feel pissed. 454 00:35:09,107 --> 00:35:11,283 We waited six years for a retrial-- 455 00:35:11,370 --> 00:35:13,241 You have to let it go. 456 00:35:15,374 --> 00:35:16,679 We knew. 457 00:35:18,159 --> 00:35:19,160 I knew 458 00:35:20,335 --> 00:35:21,771 something was wrong with him. 459 00:35:25,558 --> 00:35:27,168 Why didn't... 460 00:35:27,255 --> 00:35:29,257 why didn't we say anything to Kathleen? 461 00:35:32,304 --> 00:35:34,567 To be polite? 462 00:35:34,654 --> 00:35:37,657 We couldn't tell our sister to leave her husband 463 00:35:37,744 --> 00:35:39,876 because we thought that he was an arrogant jerk. 464 00:35:40,616 --> 00:35:42,227 Candace: No. 465 00:35:42,314 --> 00:35:43,489 It was more than that. 466 00:35:48,581 --> 00:35:49,886 I had a feeling. 467 00:35:51,105 --> 00:35:52,672 Lori: You can't stop fate. 468 00:35:52,759 --> 00:35:55,370 Kathleen died the day that she met him. 469 00:36:21,918 --> 00:36:23,616 What are you thinking about? 470 00:36:25,618 --> 00:36:29,012 Kathleen: Oh, I'm thinking about going to Aruba. 471 00:36:29,099 --> 00:36:30,231 Then Paris. 472 00:36:31,972 --> 00:36:34,061 Or Paris then Aruba. 473 00:36:36,324 --> 00:36:39,197 And then I'm thinking about how I can't afford anywhere but Durham. 474 00:36:41,242 --> 00:36:44,463 Well, honey, we can afford pasta and Blockbusters. 475 00:37:00,218 --> 00:37:02,176 Oh, maybe they have, uh... 476 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,097 Oh yeah. It's him. 477 00:37:12,534 --> 00:37:15,145 Should we say something? 478 00:37:15,233 --> 00:37:18,018 Clayton: No, just ignore it. We have nothing to hide. 479 00:37:18,105 --> 00:37:19,280 Waiter: What would you like? 480 00:37:19,367 --> 00:37:21,369 Uh, well... 481 00:37:23,676 --> 00:37:24,894 Here, Dad, you need help? 482 00:37:25,591 --> 00:37:27,680 Uh, fuck. 483 00:37:27,767 --> 00:37:29,812 Clayton, can you pick for me? 484 00:37:29,899 --> 00:37:31,553 - Clayton: Sure. - You do it. 485 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,338 Michael: I haven't had good food in a century. 486 00:37:33,425 --> 00:37:34,991 Clayton: He'll have the steak fajitas, please. 487 00:37:40,432 --> 00:37:42,042 Excuse me. 488 00:37:42,129 --> 00:37:44,262 Can I get a double tequila neat, please. 489 00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:45,350 Yes, sir. 490 00:37:49,136 --> 00:37:52,270 Margaret: Dad, I have a surprise. 491 00:37:53,967 --> 00:37:55,142 All: Oh. 492 00:37:57,187 --> 00:37:59,146 What is it? What is it? 493 00:37:59,233 --> 00:38:02,018 It's a, it's just a silly cup that Kathleen and I bought. 494 00:38:02,105 --> 00:38:04,325 I hid it so it wouldn't get sold. 495 00:38:04,412 --> 00:38:05,674 Who'd want it? 496 00:38:12,986 --> 00:38:14,727 - Dad-- - Please, no. 497 00:38:14,814 --> 00:38:16,076 Please, don't start with me. 498 00:38:19,688 --> 00:38:20,776 Okay. 499 00:38:22,082 --> 00:38:23,910 Um, Sophie, 500 00:38:24,693 --> 00:38:26,869 thank you for, 501 00:38:26,956 --> 00:38:28,741 for being there for our dad 502 00:38:28,828 --> 00:38:31,961 and for fighting for him. 503 00:38:32,048 --> 00:38:33,441 You never gave up. 504 00:38:33,528 --> 00:38:35,487 And I don't think 505 00:38:35,574 --> 00:38:37,445 my dad would be here if it weren't for you. 506 00:38:39,186 --> 00:38:40,405 To Sophie. 507 00:38:40,492 --> 00:38:42,232 All: To Sophie. 508 00:38:44,974 --> 00:38:46,367 Margaret: Could you pass it? 509 00:38:47,237 --> 00:38:49,327 It's your turn. 510 00:38:49,414 --> 00:38:52,068 - To Margaret-- - No, you pick someone else. 511 00:38:52,155 --> 00:38:53,287 Sophie: 512 00:38:53,374 --> 00:38:54,941 Okay. 513 00:38:58,205 --> 00:39:01,339 Um... to Martha. 514 00:39:01,426 --> 00:39:03,297 Oh! 515 00:39:03,384 --> 00:39:05,691 Well, from the first footage that Jean sent to Paris, 516 00:39:05,778 --> 00:39:09,564 I knew you were bright... and sensitive. 517 00:39:09,651 --> 00:39:13,089 It wasn't easy with the cameras in your face all the time. 518 00:39:13,176 --> 00:39:15,570 But you had courage. You didn't hide. 519 00:39:15,657 --> 00:39:18,704 So thank you for letting us into your life. 520 00:39:18,791 --> 00:39:21,054 - To Martha. - All: To Martha. 521 00:39:21,141 --> 00:39:26,233 And know all of you that Paris is your second home. 522 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:27,843 Margaret: Great. Thank you. 523 00:39:27,930 --> 00:39:29,671 - Cheers to that. - Waiter: Here you go. 524 00:39:29,758 --> 00:39:31,151 - Sophie: Just don't come all together. - Thank you. 525 00:39:34,284 --> 00:39:35,590 Martha: Thank you. 526 00:39:36,983 --> 00:39:39,420 Um... to Patty. 527 00:39:40,508 --> 00:39:43,250 Thank you for your kindness. 528 00:39:43,337 --> 00:39:45,557 What I've learned about just empathy 529 00:39:45,644 --> 00:39:48,037 and understanding from you has... 530 00:39:57,743 --> 00:39:59,962 - You alright? - Yeah. I'm okay. 531 00:40:01,224 --> 00:40:03,096 To my eldest. 532 00:40:03,183 --> 00:40:04,576 A husband, 533 00:40:04,663 --> 00:40:06,491 a father in his own right, 534 00:40:06,578 --> 00:40:08,841 and a hero to his own father 535 00:40:08,928 --> 00:40:10,973 all these years. 536 00:40:11,060 --> 00:40:14,586 How you turned your life around. 537 00:40:14,673 --> 00:40:16,762 And I wasn't going to tell you yet, 538 00:40:16,849 --> 00:40:18,807 but I have decided 539 00:40:18,894 --> 00:40:22,376 to relocate to Durham to be closer to you, Michael, 540 00:40:23,290 --> 00:40:25,423 and to everyone here. 541 00:40:29,296 --> 00:40:31,820 Surprise! 542 00:40:37,826 --> 00:40:38,827 To my brother. 543 00:40:40,612 --> 00:40:42,091 My best friend. 544 00:40:42,178 --> 00:40:44,050 I'm inspired by you 545 00:40:44,137 --> 00:40:45,921 and all the people that you've been reaching with your videos-- 546 00:40:48,228 --> 00:40:49,185 Fuck! 547 00:40:49,272 --> 00:40:50,317 Sorry. 548 00:40:53,799 --> 00:40:55,409 Just another one, please. 549 00:40:58,934 --> 00:41:00,458 Sorry, Clay, go on. 550 00:41:00,545 --> 00:41:03,286 Um, that's it. To Todd. 551 00:41:03,373 --> 00:41:05,680 All: To Todd. 552 00:41:10,032 --> 00:41:11,556 - Clayton: Um... - Todd: Yeah. 553 00:41:14,341 --> 00:41:15,777 To Dad. 554 00:41:18,476 --> 00:41:20,086 Welcome home. We missed you. 555 00:41:22,610 --> 00:41:23,959 You made me the man I am today. 556 00:41:26,048 --> 00:41:27,093 Thank you. 557 00:41:29,225 --> 00:41:31,967 - To Dad. - All: To Dad. 558 00:41:32,751 --> 00:41:33,926 To everybody. 559 00:41:43,805 --> 00:41:45,024 Uh... 560 00:41:52,379 --> 00:41:53,946 There's a moment, uh... 561 00:42:01,083 --> 00:42:02,215 the thing is... 562 00:42:09,483 --> 00:42:10,702 after all this time... 563 00:42:17,404 --> 00:42:18,797 uh, Kathleen would... 564 00:42:25,934 --> 00:42:27,066 I need to go to the bathroom. 565 00:42:28,458 --> 00:42:30,373 Todd: I'll come with you. 566 00:42:30,460 --> 00:42:32,462 Michael: What am I, incontinent? 567 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:34,116 I can still piss on my own, thanks. 568 00:43:17,551 --> 00:43:20,423 Oh my god. It is so stupid. 569 00:43:25,733 --> 00:43:26,865 Hello? 570 00:43:33,959 --> 00:43:35,308 Hey. 571 00:43:35,395 --> 00:43:37,702 - Oh. Hey, love birds. - Hey. 572 00:43:37,789 --> 00:43:39,486 What you up to? 573 00:43:39,573 --> 00:43:41,270 Kathleen: Oh, watching some delightful crap. 574 00:43:41,357 --> 00:43:43,229 What are you doing here? 575 00:43:43,316 --> 00:43:45,100 Todd: Oh, I'm going to Nate's Christmas party with Christina, 576 00:43:45,187 --> 00:43:47,407 and, uh, I thought I would come crash here. 577 00:43:48,626 --> 00:43:49,888 Christina Tomasetti? 578 00:43:51,150 --> 00:43:52,455 She's engaged, right? 579 00:43:54,066 --> 00:43:55,458 Yeah. 580 00:43:58,113 --> 00:43:59,637 Just like your father. 581 00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:03,031 Let's go to the kitchen. 582 00:44:03,118 --> 00:44:04,424 We need a refill. 583 00:44:05,686 --> 00:44:07,035 Todd: Alright. 584 00:44:34,062 --> 00:44:35,760 Martha: You know, I'm reading your books. 585 00:44:35,847 --> 00:44:38,676 No shit. What do you think? 586 00:44:38,763 --> 00:44:41,679 I was wondering when one of you kids would be curious. 587 00:44:41,766 --> 00:44:43,898 I mean, I recognize a lot of you in it. 588 00:44:45,291 --> 00:44:48,163 There's the soldier and the father 589 00:44:48,250 --> 00:44:50,122 and the Renaissance man 590 00:44:50,209 --> 00:44:51,689 and the nun... 591 00:44:53,386 --> 00:44:57,042 Mm. Well, you know, Kathleen said the same thing. 592 00:44:57,129 --> 00:44:59,435 "You know you're everyone in your books, right?" 593 00:45:01,220 --> 00:45:03,178 There's even that queer character. 594 00:45:04,745 --> 00:45:07,487 I just thought it was so honest. 595 00:45:07,574 --> 00:45:11,447 The moment he comes out is so painful. 596 00:45:11,534 --> 00:45:14,450 I feel like I finally understood what it must have been like 597 00:45:14,537 --> 00:45:16,757 for you to be a teenager back then. 598 00:45:16,844 --> 00:45:17,845 Yeah? 599 00:45:17,932 --> 00:45:20,065 So, which book was that? 600 00:45:20,152 --> 00:45:22,458 - "A Bitter Peace." - Oh, not my best work. 601 00:45:26,419 --> 00:45:28,377 We have so much to talk about, Dad. 602 00:45:32,294 --> 00:45:33,818 Alright, who wants dessert? 603 00:45:33,905 --> 00:45:35,733 - Clayton: Yes, I do. - Margaret: Ooh, I'm in. 604 00:45:35,820 --> 00:45:37,778 How about some sweets, huh? 605 00:45:37,865 --> 00:45:40,738 Bill Peterson: Ta-ta-ta-da. Birthday girl gets to decide. 606 00:45:42,652 --> 00:45:46,004 For everyone, huh? The pressure. 607 00:45:47,309 --> 00:45:48,658 Okay. 608 00:45:55,274 --> 00:45:57,102 Sweetheart, do you need some help with that? 609 00:45:57,189 --> 00:45:59,408 No, I'm good. I, um... 610 00:46:03,804 --> 00:46:06,589 I will have... the cheesecake. 611 00:46:06,676 --> 00:46:09,505 Who the fuck orders cheesecake at a Mexican restaurant? 612 00:46:11,377 --> 00:46:12,552 Okay. So someone else choose. 613 00:46:12,639 --> 00:46:13,945 Oh, Margie the Martyr. 614 00:46:15,555 --> 00:46:17,165 Don't be so dramatic. Just get the cheesecake. 615 00:46:17,252 --> 00:46:18,950 I don't even like cheesecake. 616 00:46:19,037 --> 00:46:20,168 I just picked it because it's what I thought 617 00:46:20,255 --> 00:46:21,691 everyone else would choose. 618 00:46:21,779 --> 00:46:22,954 So, I'm sorry. I'm sorry I picked 619 00:46:23,041 --> 00:46:24,346 the wrong dessert. 620 00:46:28,307 --> 00:46:31,049 It's been a very emotional day for everybody. 621 00:46:32,833 --> 00:46:34,530 Sophie: Anyway, there's no time for dessert. 622 00:46:35,662 --> 00:46:36,968 The curfew? 623 00:46:37,055 --> 00:46:39,100 Margaret: ...from a pencil. Yeah. 624 00:46:41,233 --> 00:46:42,234 Okay. 625 00:46:51,112 --> 00:46:54,507 Um... I'll, uh, check in with you tomorrow, okay. 626 00:46:54,594 --> 00:46:55,813 - Thank you. - Yeah. 627 00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:57,292 Okay. 628 00:46:57,379 --> 00:46:58,816 - Love you. - Mm-hmm. I love you. 629 00:47:04,778 --> 00:47:07,346 David said it could be years before a retrial. 630 00:47:10,392 --> 00:47:11,654 What if they send me back? 631 00:47:13,918 --> 00:47:14,919 They won't. 632 00:47:18,966 --> 00:47:21,012 How am I going to survive? 633 00:47:21,099 --> 00:47:23,101 - I'm broke. - I'm here. 634 00:47:24,450 --> 00:47:25,930 The kids are here. 635 00:47:26,017 --> 00:47:28,410 We'll take care of you. 636 00:47:28,497 --> 00:47:31,674 And you're free right now. That's all that matters. 637 00:47:36,984 --> 00:47:39,291 Clayton: Hey. Hey. 638 00:47:39,378 --> 00:47:41,771 It's okay. 639 00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:43,948 I'm such a fuck-up, Clay. 640 00:47:44,035 --> 00:47:45,210 Clayton: You're just drunk. 641 00:47:46,124 --> 00:47:47,125 You're drunk. 642 00:47:50,737 --> 00:47:52,826 My dear boys. 643 00:47:52,913 --> 00:47:55,220 It has been a long, long day. 644 00:47:55,307 --> 00:47:58,049 Come. Come to your dear mama. 645 00:47:59,398 --> 00:48:00,703 Clayton, help me. 646 00:48:00,790 --> 00:48:02,618 - Come on. - Clayton: Okay. 647 00:48:02,705 --> 00:48:03,881 - Come on. - Patty: Come on. 648 00:48:03,968 --> 00:48:05,534 Todd: I'm such a fuck-up, Mom. 649 00:48:05,621 --> 00:48:08,233 Patty: No, no, no. You need some sleep. 650 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:15,980 Oh shit. I forgot. I got you a birthday present. 651 00:48:16,458 --> 00:48:17,503 Ooh. 652 00:48:20,419 --> 00:48:22,377 Don't say I never got you anything. 653 00:48:36,261 --> 00:48:37,784 Margaret: What is it? 654 00:48:37,871 --> 00:48:39,786 Martha: It's the view from our bedroom 655 00:48:39,873 --> 00:48:40,918 in Germany. 656 00:48:44,617 --> 00:48:46,184 We used to see that every morning 657 00:48:46,271 --> 00:48:47,533 when we were little. 658 00:48:49,883 --> 00:48:51,493 It just seemed so peaceful 659 00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:53,582 that I thought it would be a nice memory. 660 00:48:58,544 --> 00:48:59,588 I'm sorry. 661 00:49:00,328 --> 00:49:01,329 Why? 662 00:49:04,028 --> 00:49:05,551 You're the only one in this family 663 00:49:05,638 --> 00:49:07,379 who's actually trying to be honest. 664 00:49:11,992 --> 00:49:13,385 And I lied to you. 665 00:49:14,908 --> 00:49:16,083 Not lied like... 666 00:49:17,476 --> 00:49:19,043 but I... 667 00:49:21,784 --> 00:49:23,482 kept something from you. 668 00:49:31,142 --> 00:49:32,317 Dad tried to... 669 00:49:33,796 --> 00:49:35,581 separate us when we were kids. 670 00:49:38,105 --> 00:49:40,368 Give you away and keep me. 671 00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:53,033 And... 672 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,949 I was so scared that if it got out, 673 00:49:56,036 --> 00:49:57,385 it would hurt him. 674 00:49:58,778 --> 00:49:59,822 And... 675 00:50:04,262 --> 00:50:05,828 I wasn't thinking about you. 676 00:50:09,615 --> 00:50:10,877 You weren't. 677 00:50:12,444 --> 00:50:13,923 I'm sorry. 678 00:50:24,195 --> 00:50:26,371 You don't need to protect me, you know, 679 00:50:26,458 --> 00:50:28,286 or anyone else, Margie. 680 00:50:30,636 --> 00:50:31,811 Not anymore. 681 00:50:36,337 --> 00:50:38,383 It's okay. 682 00:50:40,689 --> 00:50:42,735 Just promise me... 683 00:50:42,822 --> 00:50:44,302 Well, we'll promise each other. 684 00:50:44,389 --> 00:50:45,607 From here on out... 685 00:50:49,089 --> 00:50:51,265 we just, we live our own lives. 686 00:50:53,528 --> 00:50:54,529 Okay? 687 00:50:56,618 --> 00:50:58,664 Don't cry. 688 00:51:05,192 --> 00:51:07,368 - Michael: Oh. It's okay. - I'm sorry. 689 00:51:28,346 --> 00:51:29,564 - It's nice. - Ah. 690 00:51:29,651 --> 00:51:30,957 It's nice. 691 00:51:52,109 --> 00:51:53,893 Shit. It's stuck. 692 00:51:53,980 --> 00:51:55,764 Let me help you. 693 00:52:01,944 --> 00:52:03,207 This thing got stuck. 694 00:52:06,035 --> 00:52:08,560 I got it. Alright. 695 00:52:08,647 --> 00:52:09,822 Thank you. 696 00:52:27,970 --> 00:52:29,233 It's been a while. 697 00:52:31,713 --> 00:52:32,758 Me too. 698 00:52:50,993 --> 00:52:53,170 Lots to do before we leave. 699 00:53:00,438 --> 00:53:02,048 Reporter: Now we caught up with Michael 700 00:53:02,135 --> 00:53:04,920 days before the Alford plea. 701 00:53:05,007 --> 00:53:08,185 What have the years following your release been like? 702 00:53:08,272 --> 00:53:10,404 Michael: Ah, well, they've been, uh, been good. 703 00:53:10,491 --> 00:53:12,798 You know, I spent some time with my, my granddaughters 704 00:53:12,885 --> 00:53:15,888 and, uh, traveled about a bit once they took my ankle monitor off. 705 00:53:15,975 --> 00:53:18,282 Sophie Brussard: Don't you get tired of watching yourself? 706 00:53:18,369 --> 00:53:21,241 Come on! You can pack and watch TV. 707 00:53:21,328 --> 00:53:23,504 Reporter: ...when an investigation into the SBI 708 00:53:23,591 --> 00:53:25,463 allowed Peterson's defense to argue 709 00:53:25,550 --> 00:53:28,335 that a key witness, SBI agent Duane Deaver, 710 00:53:28,422 --> 00:53:29,989 perjured himself on the stand. 711 00:53:30,076 --> 00:53:31,338 A retrial was granted... 712 00:53:31,425 --> 00:53:33,471 Did you pack it? 713 00:53:33,558 --> 00:53:35,560 - What? - My passport. I can't find it. 714 00:53:37,562 --> 00:53:39,259 Reporter: And they decided that the best route 715 00:53:39,346 --> 00:53:41,130 was an Alford plea. 716 00:53:41,218 --> 00:53:42,436 Michael: I wanted to go on fighting. 717 00:53:42,523 --> 00:53:45,134 The last thing I ever wanted 718 00:53:45,222 --> 00:53:46,919 was to say the word. 719 00:53:48,442 --> 00:53:50,357 - But... - Where'd you put it? 720 00:53:51,489 --> 00:53:53,578 Hmm? I didn't put it anywhere. 721 00:53:55,057 --> 00:53:58,104 Michael: But I'm 73. 722 00:53:58,191 --> 00:54:01,542 I have to think of the time I have left. 723 00:54:04,197 --> 00:54:06,765 And the risk of losing was too great, so... 724 00:54:06,852 --> 00:54:09,246 Reporter: You spent eight years in prison. 725 00:54:09,333 --> 00:54:10,943 What was that like? 726 00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:13,293 Michael: The experience of prison is 727 00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:16,557 possibly even more dehumanizing than... 728 00:54:16,644 --> 00:54:19,256 - It was next to the bed. - ...the experience of going to war. 729 00:54:19,343 --> 00:54:21,127 Reporter: So... 730 00:54:21,214 --> 00:54:23,260 I notice you're still wearing a wedding ring. 731 00:54:24,173 --> 00:54:26,350 Hmm. Yeah. 732 00:54:26,437 --> 00:54:28,569 Reporter: Is she still a part of your life. 733 00:54:28,656 --> 00:54:30,354 Oh yes. 734 00:54:30,441 --> 00:54:32,834 I, I think about Kathleen every day, 735 00:54:32,921 --> 00:54:34,662 all the time. 736 00:54:34,749 --> 00:54:36,360 I can be standing in the kitchen here 737 00:54:36,447 --> 00:54:37,970 and think she's just going to walk 738 00:54:38,057 --> 00:54:39,276 through that door any moment. 739 00:54:43,715 --> 00:54:45,325 Well, Jim, for now, 740 00:54:45,412 --> 00:54:46,500 it looks like Michael's content 741 00:54:46,587 --> 00:54:48,372 living a solitary life 742 00:54:48,459 --> 00:54:49,503 and being a grandfather-- 743 00:54:49,590 --> 00:54:51,418 Come on, let's get to it. 744 00:54:51,505 --> 00:54:52,811 Will you just give me a minute to catch my breath. 745 00:54:54,813 --> 00:54:56,336 Jesus. 746 00:54:56,423 --> 00:54:57,511 What's wrong with you? 747 00:55:00,297 --> 00:55:01,776 I'm just tired. 748 00:55:02,864 --> 00:55:03,952 I'm sorry. 749 00:55:16,922 --> 00:55:18,663 Maybe you want to go on tomorrow without me. 750 00:55:19,925 --> 00:55:21,927 I'll just come on my own later. 751 00:55:23,624 --> 00:55:25,800 Go to Paris without you? 752 00:55:26,932 --> 00:55:28,542 - Michael: Yeah. - No! 753 00:55:28,629 --> 00:55:29,848 I don't want that. 754 00:55:29,935 --> 00:55:31,763 Well, I need a second. 755 00:55:31,850 --> 00:55:34,809 You know, this is all happening so fast, too fast. 756 00:55:34,896 --> 00:55:36,333 Too fast? 757 00:55:46,038 --> 00:55:47,344 Do you not want to go? 758 00:55:52,740 --> 00:55:55,613 God, I'm just too tired to pack. 759 00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:58,355 I'll finish up packing here this week. 760 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:03,055 Let's just relax and enjoy the night, huh? 761 00:56:03,142 --> 00:56:04,186 I can't just rush off. 762 00:56:05,884 --> 00:56:09,453 We've been planning this for months, for years. 763 00:56:09,540 --> 00:56:11,933 So what's another week then? 764 00:56:13,761 --> 00:56:15,328 If you don't want to move to Paris... 765 00:56:16,242 --> 00:56:17,461 that's fine. 766 00:56:18,984 --> 00:56:20,333 Just tell me. 767 00:56:24,685 --> 00:56:26,557 No, it's not that I don't want to go. 768 00:56:28,341 --> 00:56:31,475 I'm just worried about leaving my kids, my grandkids. 769 00:56:31,562 --> 00:56:33,781 - You know, they still need me here. - Your children? 770 00:56:35,914 --> 00:56:37,568 They don't need you anymore. 771 00:56:37,655 --> 00:56:38,656 Clearly. 772 00:56:40,048 --> 00:56:41,615 They didn't even come today. 773 00:56:51,059 --> 00:56:52,626 I told them not to come. 774 00:56:52,713 --> 00:56:54,454 You didn't have to tell them anything. 775 00:56:56,804 --> 00:56:59,416 You know, in that interview, they asked, 776 00:56:59,503 --> 00:57:01,505 "What have you been doing since prison?" 777 00:57:03,463 --> 00:57:08,294 You say everything but being with me. 778 00:57:08,381 --> 00:57:10,427 What about me traveling with your family? 779 00:57:10,514 --> 00:57:12,820 What about me taking care of you? 780 00:57:12,907 --> 00:57:14,518 You keep saying this bullshit 781 00:57:14,605 --> 00:57:17,303 about Kathleen walking through the door? 782 00:57:17,390 --> 00:57:19,174 I walk through the door, not her. 783 00:57:19,261 --> 00:57:20,698 Those people don't need to know my business. 784 00:57:20,785 --> 00:57:21,786 What do you care if I mention you? 785 00:57:21,873 --> 00:57:23,004 I'm the editor, not you. 786 00:57:23,091 --> 00:57:24,702 - Oh! Oh. - Okay? 787 00:57:24,789 --> 00:57:26,486 I can edit me out if I want. 788 00:57:26,573 --> 00:57:27,966 You don't edit me. 789 00:57:28,053 --> 00:57:29,924 So, so that's it, huh? Control. 790 00:57:30,011 --> 00:57:32,274 You and Kathleen always trying to control everything. 791 00:57:32,361 --> 00:57:33,537 Sophie: Control? 792 00:57:33,624 --> 00:57:35,495 I've been taking care of you 793 00:57:35,582 --> 00:57:37,715 like Kathleen took care of you. 794 00:57:37,802 --> 00:57:40,718 You always act like you know everything about me. 795 00:57:40,805 --> 00:57:43,634 I had a whole life before that documentary 796 00:57:43,721 --> 00:57:45,462 that you know nothing about. 797 00:57:47,942 --> 00:57:50,597 - Are you coming with me tomorrow? - I'm not. 798 00:57:55,602 --> 00:57:59,171 You're the one who said you, you wanted Paris. 799 00:57:59,258 --> 00:58:01,913 Paris, Paris, Paris, Paris, Paris. 800 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,525 - Shut up. - I've given you everything I had. Everything! 801 00:58:05,612 --> 00:58:07,614 I built my life around you! 802 00:58:07,701 --> 00:58:08,833 Michael: Jesus. Shut up. 803 00:58:10,399 --> 00:58:12,140 For what? 804 00:58:12,227 --> 00:58:14,099 For what? 805 00:58:14,186 --> 00:58:17,581 I don't wanna fucking live with women anymore, okay? 806 00:58:17,668 --> 00:58:19,104 Is that so hard for you to understand? 807 00:58:19,191 --> 00:58:20,279 I'm done! 808 00:58:21,193 --> 00:58:22,673 I am fucking done! 809 00:58:38,036 --> 00:58:39,341 Did you ever love me? 810 00:58:42,562 --> 00:58:43,563 I don't know. 811 00:58:47,262 --> 00:58:48,873 I don't know. 812 00:58:52,441 --> 00:58:53,660 Michael: It's okay. 813 00:58:54,705 --> 00:58:55,967 Sophie... 814 00:58:59,623 --> 00:59:00,798 - I'll... - Sophie. 815 00:59:09,328 --> 00:59:11,330 Jean: What is it you wanted to talk about, Michael? 816 00:59:12,810 --> 00:59:14,072 Michael: Baseball. 817 00:59:15,377 --> 00:59:16,378 Jean: Baseball? 818 00:59:17,945 --> 00:59:20,252 Don't worry about the time. 819 00:59:20,339 --> 00:59:22,167 Why are we really sitting here, Michael? 820 00:59:24,038 --> 00:59:27,999 I used to play baseball when I was 11 or 12. 821 00:59:28,086 --> 00:59:32,264 And one night, I was fantasizing about this girl, 822 00:59:32,351 --> 00:59:34,135 my neighbor's daughter, Melanie, 823 00:59:34,222 --> 00:59:37,878 and suddenly he was there in that fantasy. 824 00:59:37,965 --> 00:59:39,880 And I was very confused by that. 825 00:59:39,967 --> 00:59:41,665 I mean, we played on the same ball team. 826 00:59:41,752 --> 00:59:44,885 Jean: Wait, wait, who was there? 827 00:59:44,972 --> 00:59:47,453 The shortstop. 828 00:59:47,540 --> 00:59:50,761 At that moment, I realized that I had 829 00:59:50,848 --> 00:59:53,677 a great attraction for, for females, 830 00:59:53,764 --> 00:59:57,028 but for guys also. 831 00:59:57,115 --> 00:59:59,770 And that that was something I was going to have to hide. 832 00:59:59,857 --> 01:00:02,163 Jean: Did your parents find out? 833 01:00:02,250 --> 01:00:03,904 One night, my father found us, 834 01:00:05,253 --> 01:00:07,429 just, you know, experimenting. 835 01:00:10,258 --> 01:00:11,477 He got so mad. 836 01:00:15,263 --> 01:00:17,004 Violent. 837 01:00:17,091 --> 01:00:19,398 I remember sitting in our car 838 01:00:19,485 --> 01:00:21,705 outside the garage listening to the radio. 839 01:00:24,359 --> 01:00:26,361 Just me, my mother, 840 01:00:26,448 --> 01:00:27,754 Mahler's Fifth Symphony, 841 01:00:28,842 --> 01:00:30,061 and my black eye. 842 01:00:31,758 --> 01:00:33,717 After that, I knew it was easier to lie. 843 01:00:33,804 --> 01:00:35,022 It was safer. 844 01:00:36,763 --> 01:00:38,983 Jean: Is that it? 845 01:00:39,070 --> 01:00:41,159 Is there something else you wanted to say? 846 01:00:44,684 --> 01:00:47,208 I always felt 847 01:00:47,295 --> 01:00:49,036 there was something you were holding back 848 01:00:49,123 --> 01:00:51,386 during the first trial. 849 01:00:51,473 --> 01:00:54,520 I don't know what, but there was something. 850 01:00:58,742 --> 01:01:00,395 I was. There is. 851 01:01:04,791 --> 01:01:06,227 I lied about Kathleen. 852 01:01:07,881 --> 01:01:09,143 She never knew. 853 01:01:12,016 --> 01:01:13,670 I never told her about that side of me. 854 01:01:15,454 --> 01:01:17,412 You know, in the beginning when people asked, 855 01:01:17,499 --> 01:01:19,937 you know, "Did she know about the men?" 856 01:01:20,024 --> 01:01:22,504 I, I told them, "Of course, she did. 857 01:01:22,591 --> 01:01:23,854 She knew me." 858 01:01:26,030 --> 01:01:28,293 And I'd hoped that would be enough. 859 01:01:28,380 --> 01:01:30,817 But then people ask again and again, so... 860 01:01:34,778 --> 01:01:38,869 But no, no, we never talked about... it. 861 01:01:42,307 --> 01:01:45,571 I could never make the leap to say to her, 862 01:01:45,658 --> 01:01:47,834 "This is who I am." 863 01:01:50,750 --> 01:01:52,970 To make that leap is, is very difficult and... 864 01:01:54,667 --> 01:01:56,408 I didn't make the leap with Kathleen. 865 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,239 I'm sure I felt guilty, you know. 866 01:02:04,155 --> 01:02:05,765 But when you get away with something 867 01:02:05,852 --> 01:02:07,462 and you keep getting away with it, 868 01:02:07,549 --> 01:02:10,204 it becomes, "Oh, it's alright," 869 01:02:10,291 --> 01:02:11,379 you see? 870 01:02:13,033 --> 01:02:14,600 I wish I could have told her. 871 01:02:16,167 --> 01:02:17,298 I wonder what she would have said. 872 01:02:20,171 --> 01:02:21,738 She'd have made it right. 873 01:02:25,785 --> 01:02:27,047 Jean: Did you kill Kathleen? 874 01:02:33,401 --> 01:02:36,143 Kathleen's death was an accident. 875 01:02:46,675 --> 01:02:48,155 This man... 876 01:02:49,722 --> 01:02:51,637 this man is a liar. 877 01:02:51,724 --> 01:02:54,118 He lied about everything. Everything! 878 01:02:56,555 --> 01:02:58,818 The whole time he lied. 879 01:02:58,905 --> 01:03:01,081 Yes, he did, but maybe this is him trying to stop. 880 01:03:01,168 --> 01:03:02,866 You really think so? 881 01:03:17,619 --> 01:03:19,099 I don't know... 882 01:03:21,536 --> 01:03:23,321 what to think. 883 01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:27,629 I don't know. 884 01:03:32,373 --> 01:03:33,722 But, I know... 885 01:03:35,812 --> 01:03:37,552 you will be happier without him. 886 01:03:43,645 --> 01:03:44,733 Jean... 887 01:03:48,215 --> 01:03:49,608 He didn't. 888 01:03:53,786 --> 01:03:55,353 He couldn't. 889 01:04:06,973 --> 01:04:08,975 Caitlin: Hey, Mom. Hey, Mike. 890 01:04:09,062 --> 01:04:10,672 I'm starting to get packed up to see you guys soon. 891 01:04:10,759 --> 01:04:12,239 Um, I was thinking of driving down 892 01:04:12,326 --> 01:04:13,937 if the weather wasn't so bad 893 01:04:14,024 --> 01:04:16,069 and maybe seeing some friends on the way. 894 01:04:16,156 --> 01:04:17,810 But anyway, I can't wait to see you guys for Christmas. 895 01:04:17,897 --> 01:04:19,551 I really need a watch, wink wink. 896 01:04:19,638 --> 01:04:22,336 I love you. 897 01:04:22,423 --> 01:04:24,251 Helen Prislinger: Hey, Kathleen. Sorry to call so late, 898 01:04:24,338 --> 01:04:25,862 but we have to do a conference call tomorrow 899 01:04:25,949 --> 01:04:27,254 to get on the same page about Toronto 900 01:04:27,341 --> 01:04:29,256 before you fly out. 901 01:04:29,343 --> 01:04:31,650 A work call on the weekend. It sucks, I know, 902 01:04:31,737 --> 01:04:33,870 but I need to send you the presentation. 903 01:04:33,957 --> 01:04:35,349 Call me back, okay. 904 01:04:37,569 --> 01:04:39,049 Kathleen: Hey, Helen. 905 01:04:39,136 --> 01:04:40,615 Shit, you're not sleeping, are you? 906 01:04:42,530 --> 01:04:43,880 Yeah. Okay. So what is it? 907 01:04:47,144 --> 01:04:50,843 Oh shit. I forgot my laptop at the office. 908 01:04:50,930 --> 01:04:52,149 Oh, I've been so out of it. 909 01:04:52,236 --> 01:04:53,933 Um... 910 01:04:54,020 --> 01:04:56,022 You know what? Uh, send it to Mike's e-mail. 911 01:04:57,154 --> 01:05:00,940 Yeah. It's, uh... Mike? 912 01:05:01,027 --> 01:05:02,855 Mike, what's your email? 913 01:05:02,942 --> 01:05:05,336 What? Why? 914 01:05:05,423 --> 01:05:07,555 Kathleen: Well, I just... I need it for work. 915 01:05:08,469 --> 01:05:10,558 Oh, okay, 916 01:05:10,645 --> 01:05:15,476 it's mpwriter@gte.net. 917 01:05:15,563 --> 01:05:17,739 Mpwriter@gte.net. 918 01:05:19,828 --> 01:05:21,047 That's it. Alright. 919 01:05:21,961 --> 01:05:23,484 Okay. 920 01:05:23,571 --> 01:05:25,095 And thanks, Helen. Good night. 921 01:05:27,575 --> 01:05:28,576 What was that about? 922 01:05:29,577 --> 01:05:31,797 Oh, it was Helen. 923 01:05:31,884 --> 01:05:34,365 - Helen? - Prislinger. She works under me, 924 01:05:34,452 --> 01:05:36,976 and there's a presentation I have to review. 925 01:05:37,063 --> 01:05:39,152 So, uh, I'm gonna have to check it on your email. 926 01:05:40,327 --> 01:05:41,328 Ah. 927 01:05:42,460 --> 01:05:43,896 Okay. 928 01:05:43,983 --> 01:05:45,724 - Is that alright? - Of course. 929 01:05:49,902 --> 01:05:51,817 Don't work. 930 01:05:51,904 --> 01:05:53,340 Just look it over in the morning. 931 01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:56,300 Hmm? 932 01:05:56,387 --> 01:05:58,563 Let's relax and enjoy the rest of the night. 933 01:06:10,923 --> 01:06:12,098 Caitlin called. 934 01:06:13,578 --> 01:06:16,102 Oh yeah? What'd she say? 935 01:06:16,189 --> 01:06:18,670 She's driving down for Christmas. 936 01:06:18,757 --> 01:06:21,151 She's bringing the baby. 937 01:06:21,238 --> 01:06:22,804 He's getting really chubby. 938 01:06:24,806 --> 01:06:25,894 Mmm. 939 01:06:27,418 --> 01:06:28,767 You talk to Margie? 940 01:06:28,854 --> 01:06:30,421 Not yet. 941 01:06:30,508 --> 01:06:32,249 I'll talk to her when she's back up. 942 01:06:32,336 --> 01:06:34,773 You have to talk to her, Mike. 943 01:06:34,860 --> 01:06:36,993 You really upset her. You never even talked to her about her divorce. 944 01:06:38,298 --> 01:06:40,257 - You can't put these things off. - I will. 945 01:06:45,088 --> 01:06:47,003 Martha's doing better, at least. 946 01:06:48,874 --> 01:06:50,963 She's finally doing what she wants. 947 01:06:53,487 --> 01:06:55,837 She's got this dance recital tonight. 948 01:06:58,362 --> 01:07:00,886 Margie's there. They're together. 949 01:07:05,282 --> 01:07:06,544 The way they should be. 950 01:07:08,067 --> 01:07:09,068 Really? 951 01:07:10,939 --> 01:07:13,420 I thought she was working. 952 01:07:13,507 --> 01:07:15,205 That's what she said, why she couldn't make it. 953 01:07:17,207 --> 01:07:19,252 Well, she wasn't gonna miss the show. 954 01:07:24,649 --> 01:07:25,911 They're all okay. 955 01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:33,484 You'll be okay too. 956 01:07:51,850 --> 01:07:53,069 Why didn't you tell me? 957 01:07:59,379 --> 01:08:00,685 There was a moment 958 01:08:02,295 --> 01:08:03,949 where I knew who I was. 959 01:08:12,914 --> 01:08:14,525 But it was just a moment. 960 01:08:20,531 --> 01:08:23,534 And I became one thing after another. 961 01:08:23,621 --> 01:08:26,624 I got further and further from that moment. 962 01:08:35,807 --> 01:08:37,243 And then you came along... 963 01:08:40,333 --> 01:08:41,726 so far from that moment. 964 01:08:47,993 --> 01:08:49,386 It wasn't a lie. 965 01:08:54,304 --> 01:08:56,132 It just wasn't the whole thing. 966 01:09:01,876 --> 01:09:04,270 But what two people ever know each other really? 967 01:09:06,577 --> 01:09:09,710 Most of it is just smoke and mirrors. 968 01:09:09,797 --> 01:09:11,973 People don't actually know who they're with. 969 01:09:47,270 --> 01:09:49,185 Michael: Hey, I tried all you guys now, 970 01:09:49,272 --> 01:09:52,536 but I guess everyone is pretty busy. 971 01:09:52,623 --> 01:09:54,842 So it turns out I'm not going to Paris. 972 01:09:54,929 --> 01:09:57,802 It's, uh, for the best. 973 01:09:57,889 --> 01:09:59,804 I know it's been a while, but maybe we can 974 01:09:59,891 --> 01:10:01,371 all get together soon. 975 01:10:01,458 --> 01:10:02,720 Miss you. 976 01:11:20,972 --> 01:11:23,104 Despite the freedom to go anywhere, 977 01:11:23,191 --> 01:11:25,803 Michael never left Durham, NC 978 01:11:28,893 --> 01:11:31,156 He still maintains his innocence 979 01:11:31,243 --> 01:11:33,941 in the death of Kathleen Atwater Peterson